I think I’m going to be rather repetitive, but here I go. Note: I have only spoken to Ami about this because, at the time, she was the only mod available; Ami has been a darling and I feel bad for bothering her so many times about the same old same old, but considering the things I want to do, the character I play and the in game environment I don’t have much of a choice.
Villain characters are crippled in Soul Campaign.
I can’t explain it any other way, because it’s true. This is a game not meant for villains, at least not villains that want to plot against Shibusen. There are many type of villains, you see, and there are villains who are willing to work with Shibusen or just be stir shit up without really wanting anything BIG to happen to change the outcome of the war. However, characters who are driven to make everything a living hell for Shibusen (and everyone) are incredibly crippled because the players greatly depend on the mods for all their villainous plotting. And I don’t mean setting fire to a tree; I mean actual plotting that would get our characters killed for it. Like working with the witches.
I wish I could play Demona without having to ask every single time “is this plot alright? Is it possible?” or to ask for a Witch NPC all the time for private logs, but that’s impossible. And I don’t think that can change because this game, the way it’s drawn and the way it’s made and the way it’s meant to be played, will always give leeway for the non villains, and leave the villains always very dependent. And they become even more dependent when our villains are so driven that they want to join the Witches and it’s IC for them to do so.
Now, I have found IC way of keeping Demona in city. It’s great, because she isn’t excluded. But at the same time, I never know what I can do with her. She is working with the Witches - awesome.
And now what?
I have planned and plotted and there is so much meant to happen – but then what? All I plan and plot is written and not played out. It’s assumed and not logged. It’s “Yes, that can happen”, but we skip over it and assume that maybe later it will mean something. And all of my plans to make my villain that one bitch that will back stab the living shit out of ALL of you, happen behind doors, assumed and not actually played out. And no character in game knows anything about it, no one actually even understands what is going on or if there IS something going on.
I can give you the example: while the riots and the kidnappings were happening, Demona had in her hands a wand that spread Madness given to her by the witches. And the idea was that while everyone was rioting, points of madness, for no reason at all, would show up all over the city. Randomly. It’d be a great introduction that something was up. Yet, which character heard of madness infiltrating a supposedly safe and madness-free city? Which characters heard of overly abnormal riots involving people going mad? Which characters noticed it wasn’t a WAVE of madness, but just one or two people becoming affected, something that hasn’t happened before?
Every character knew it wasn’t witch related because there was no madness, there were no claims by the witches (they aren’t exactly shy when kidnapping people), there were no kishin eggs. But Demona WAS spreading madness, wasn’t she? Except there was no point from the mods or a NPC about it, and I can’t exactly make an open log for people to see Demona prancing around and happily waving a witch-made wand as she makes people go nuts.
So you see, I was dependent on the mods to make it go. And I can’t obviously force the mods to do it, but I can’t do it myself either.
I know it’s hard for villains to do their thing in this game. But I really want to change that. But I’m just a player and I can’t decide important plots for you guys. But it’s also so frustrating to just want it and develop it and try to make it happen, and then nothing does and we are still here waiting and waiting and I have been waiting since I joined with Demona for over A YEAR now. And it’s no wonder there are no other villains.
I’m not asking for you guys to do the gaming or the plotting for us. I can do that. I have my plot all planned out. But we need more support on the villain side. A lot more. And we need the mods to perhaps make use of the villains they have to make things more engaging. Again, thank you Ami, you have been a darling about this and I know you are trying hard too. But I’m here ready to throw Demona into deep shit and I still feel like the mods want solely to depend on the environment and the NPCS and not on their player base to make big BANGS happen.
I think it’s a lot more fun to create a game-wide plot with characters in game, rather than create a plot and hope the characters in game will go along.
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Villain characters are crippled in Soul Campaign.
I can’t explain it any other way, because it’s true. This is a game not meant for villains, at least not villains that want to plot against Shibusen. There are many type of villains, you see, and there are villains who are willing to work with Shibusen or just be stir shit up without really wanting anything BIG to happen to change the outcome of the war. However, characters who are driven to make everything a living hell for Shibusen (and everyone) are incredibly crippled because the players greatly depend on the mods for all their villainous plotting. And I don’t mean setting fire to a tree; I mean actual plotting that would get our characters killed for it. Like working with the witches.
I wish I could play Demona without having to ask every single time “is this plot alright? Is it possible?” or to ask for a Witch NPC all the time for private logs, but that’s impossible. And I don’t think that can change because this game, the way it’s drawn and the way it’s made and the way it’s meant to be played, will always give leeway for the non villains, and leave the villains always very dependent. And they become even more dependent when our villains are so driven that they want to join the Witches and it’s IC for them to do so.
Now, I have found IC way of keeping Demona in city. It’s great, because she isn’t excluded. But at the same time, I never know what I can do with her. She is working with the Witches - awesome.
And now what?
I have planned and plotted and there is so much meant to happen – but then what? All I plan and plot is written and not played out. It’s assumed and not logged. It’s “Yes, that can happen”, but we skip over it and assume that maybe later it will mean something. And all of my plans to make my villain that one bitch that will back stab the living shit out of ALL of you, happen behind doors, assumed and not actually played out. And no character in game knows anything about it, no one actually even understands what is going on or if there IS something going on.
I can give you the example: while the riots and the kidnappings were happening, Demona had in her hands a wand that spread Madness given to her by the witches. And the idea was that while everyone was rioting, points of madness, for no reason at all, would show up all over the city. Randomly. It’d be a great introduction that something was up.
Yet, which character heard of madness infiltrating a supposedly safe and madness-free city? Which characters heard of overly abnormal riots involving people going mad? Which characters noticed it wasn’t a WAVE of madness, but just one or two people becoming affected, something that hasn’t happened before?
Every character knew it wasn’t witch related because there was no madness, there were no claims by the witches (they aren’t exactly shy when kidnapping people), there were no kishin eggs. But Demona WAS spreading madness, wasn’t she? Except there was no point from the mods or a NPC about it, and I can’t exactly make an open log for people to see Demona prancing around and happily waving a witch-made wand as she makes people go nuts.
So you see, I was dependent on the mods to make it go. And I can’t obviously force the mods to do it, but I can’t do it myself either.
I know it’s hard for villains to do their thing in this game. But I really want to change that. But I’m just a player and I can’t decide important plots for you guys. But it’s also so frustrating to just want it and develop it and try to make it happen, and then nothing does and we are still here waiting and waiting and I have been waiting since I joined with Demona for over A YEAR now. And it’s no wonder there are no other villains.
I’m not asking for you guys to do the gaming or the plotting for us. I can do that. I have my plot all planned out. But we need more support on the villain side. A lot more. And we need the mods to perhaps make use of the villains they have to make things more engaging. Again, thank you Ami, you have been a darling about this and I know you are trying hard too. But I’m here ready to throw Demona into deep shit and I still feel like the mods want solely to depend on the environment and the NPCS and not on their player base to make big BANGS happen.
I think it’s a lot more fun to create a game-wide plot with characters in game, rather than create a plot and hope the characters in game will go along.